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Robert Baker, (by Mr. Young) - I am a grocer at St. Helen's, Jersey. I lived in Edinburgh at one time, and acted as waiter in the Rainbow Tavern. When there I was acquainted with L'Angelier. That was in 1851. He lived in the Rainbow between six and nine months, as far as I recollect. He was there till the time he went to Dundee. We slept together. The tavern was then kept by an uncle of mine, Mr. George Baker.

L'Angelier's circumstances were then very bad; he was living on Mr. Baker's bounty - waiting there till he got a situation. I thought him a quiet sort of person. I did not know much of his ways. I was not much out with him. He was very easily excited. He was at times subject to low spirits. I have often seen him crying at night. Latterly, before he went to Dundee, he told me he was tired of his existence and wished himself out of the world. He said so on more than one occasion. I remember on one occasion he got out of bed and went to the window and threw it up. I rose out of bed and went to him, and he said that if I had not disturbed him he would have thrown himself out. The windows of the Rainbow are about six stories from the ground - the height of the North Bridge, indeed. He was in the habit very often of getting up at night and walking up and down the room in an excited state, weeping very much. I happened to know that he had at this time met with a disappointment in a love matter. He did not tell me so himself, but I heard my uncle talk of it. I heard L'Angelier speak to other people about it. It was about some lady in Fife. [Mr. Young - You need not mention names. I think we shall be able to speak of her as the lady in. Fife.] He was in, distress about not having a situation in order to enable him to keep to his engagement with her. I did not see him weeping on that subject. When he said he would have thrown himself over the window on the occasion I have spoken of, he was not crying; He was very cool, collected, and did not seem at all excited or agitated when I spoke to him. I thought he was in earnest, He had talked about it so often before. We were in the habit of taking walks together the morning, before business began. We have walked to Leith Pier, and when there he said he had a great mind to throw himself over, one morning, because he was quite tired of his existence. I have seen him reading newspaper accounts of suicide, and I have heard him say that here was a person who had the courage that he should have had, that he wished he had the same courage, or something to that effect.

(by the Lord Advocate) - I believe he was a Jersey man. I met him in Jersey once before I was at the Rainbow. He did not come there because I had seen him in Jersey. He had been living in Edinburgh before I saw him. I had seen him on a visit to Jersey. I saw him in Jersey in 1846, I think.

(by Mr Young) - I received the letter (No.1 of prisoner's inventory) from L'Angelier at Dundee. It has no date. It was shortly after he left the Rainbow. In this letter he says, "I never was so unhappy in my life. I wish I had the courage to blow my brains out.

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William Laird (by Mr. Young) - I am. a nurseryman in Dundee. I was acquainted with the late Emile L'Angelier. I knew him when he was in the service of Dickson & Co., Edinburgh, about 1843. In 1852 I took him into my own employment in Dundee. He had been away from the Dicksons' before that, and had been in France. He came to me between the 12th and 20th January; 1852, on Old Handsel Monday; and he remained till the end of August or 1st September. He was a very sober young man, and very kind and obliging; rather excitable and changeable in his temper, sometimes very melancholy and sometimes very lively.

When he came to me in January he had a kind of cold; he was unwell, and very dull. He did not tell me at first, but shortly afterwards he told me that he had been crossed in love. He assisted me in the seed shop chiefly; sometimes he wrought at light work in the nursery too. It was a fortnight or a month after he came that he said he had been crossed in love. He told me it was reported that the girl was to be married to another but that he could scarcely believe it, because he did not think she could take another. I understood that that was because she was pledged to him. He told me who she was. [Mr. Young - I don't want her name.] I believe she was in the middle station of life. After this I saw her marriage in the newspapers. I got a letter from my brother in Edinburgh, asking if L'Angelier had seen in the Scotsman newspaper a notice of the marriage. L'Angelier did see that notice. I know William Pringle. He was my apprentice at the time. Either Pringle or some other apprentice told me something L'Angelier had done about that matter, which led me to speak to him. I told him I was sorry to see him so melancholy and sad, and that I was still more so to hear that he had taken up a knife to stab himself. He said very little, and was very dull. I said what I could to soothe him. He said he was truly miserable, and that he wished he was out of the world, or words to that effect. He was in a very melancholy state after this. He was gloomy and moody, and never speaking to anyone. I had frequent conversations with him - several times every day.

[Mr. Young - From these conversations, and all you had seen of him, do you think he had any religious principle about him to deter him from committing suicide?] He attended church regularly, but did not show anything particular about religion; but at the same time he was very moral, so far as I knew.

He often told me of being in France during the Revolution of 1848. He said he was in Paris at that time. He told me he was engaged in the Revolution; he said he was a member of the National Guard. He was rather a vain man. I don't recollect his wages with me; he came to me as an extra hand when he was out of employment. I said I would give him bed and board and something more; I think he got bed and board, and 8s. or 10s. a week.

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William Pringle, (by Mr. Young) - I was in the service of Mr. Laird, Dundee, in 1852. I knew L'Angelier there. We both lived in Mr. Laird's house. I had frequent conversations with L'Angelier. 1 remember telling him that I heard of a certain marriage in the newspapers. I said so in the shop. I said that such a lady was married, and he seemed greatly agitated.

[Mr. Young - How did his agitation show itself?] He ran once or twice behind the counter, then he took hold of the counter-knife. He did not point it at himself, but he held it out then I stepped forward he put it down again. I don't remember what he said. I don't think he shed tears; I did not observe him crying. He was particularly melancholy for some time after the occurrence. He slept with me. I was a little afraid he might do himself some mischief. I was then sixteen years of age.

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Andrew Watson Smith, (by Mr. Young) - I am an upholsterer in Dundee. I was acquainted with L'Angelier when he was in Laird's employment in 1852. We were pretty intimate. I was then living at Newport, on the other side of the Tay from Dundee. L'Angelier frequently visited me there, sometimes coming on a Saturday and staying till Monday. When he did so, he and I slept together. I had good opportunity of observing his disposition and state of mind. I thought he was a very excitable sort of character - often in very high spirits, and often in very low spirits. He mentioned a disappointment in love he had had about that time. He mentioned the lady's name. He told me they had been engaged for a number of years, and had loved each other very much; but that it had been broken off, and he felt inclined to destroy himself. He showed me a ring he had got from the lady, with a name engraved on it. I think it was her name. He spoke of destroying himself. He seemed in a very melancholy spirit, and declared he could never be happy again, and that he thought he would drown himself. I have a faint remembrance, but I am not exactly sure, that he once told me he went to the Dean Bridge to throw himself over. It was because this lady had jilted him. He did not say what prevented him from throwing himself over. Self-destruction was a very frequent subject of conversation with him. I thought him serious, though I never had any serious apprehension that he would do it. That was from want of courage. It was only when he was in his low moods that be talked of self-destruction. He told me about having been in France at the Revolution, and he told me he felt very nervous after that, attributing it partly to the excitement of the time. He said he frequently thought he heard a noise behind him, as if a number of rats were running along. When he spoke of the lady who had jilted him he was always very excited, and once I remember him crying. He appeared to be in great grief. That was the first time he spoke of destroying himself he talked of drowning himself.

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William Anderson, (by Mr. Young) - I had a nursery and seed-shop in Dundee in 1852. I then became acquainted with L'Angelier. He sometimes came to my shop, and I saw a good deal of him. I had conversations with him two or three times. He was rather of a sanguine disposition; he was excitable, I think, and he had the appearance of vanity; his conversation had that character. When women were a matter of conversation he spoke much of that. He boasted of his success with ladies. I remember on one occasion particularly, in my own house at supper, he told me he was very intimate with two ladies in Dundee at the time, and that it seemed to him his attachment for them was returned, and that they were both very beautiful girls, and worth a considerable sum of money.

[The Lord Justice-Clerk - Did he mean to say that he had been successful in seducing them, or what?] No, my lord, it was that he loved them, and they loved him in return. I did not put this down as a piece of bragging; I thought it was in earnest.

(by Mr. Young) - He did boast of being successful in getting ladies attached to him but the same subject was not always spoken of. He said he did not know very well what he would do if he was jilted, and he said something to the effect that he would have revenge on them in some shape or other if they did jilt him. He was occasionally very irritable in his disposition, and on some occasions he sat quite dull without speaking, and then he got up all at once in an excited state - that was when speaking of any particular subject, such as females. His manner and disposition had more of the temperament of the French, Italians, or Spaniards than Scotch or English.

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William McDougal Ogilvie, (by Mr. Young) - I am an assistant teller in the Dundee Bank. In 1852 I was secretary to the Floral and Horticultural Society in Dundee. Numbers of the meetings of the society were held in Laird's back-shop. In this way I became acquainted with L'Angelier. We became very intimate, and frequently conversed together. He was variable in his spirits - very remarkably so. His general subject of conversation was ladies. He seemed sometimes vain of his success with ladies. He talked of ladies always looking at him in passing along the street, and that he had considerable success in getting acquainted with ladies. He spoke of their falling in love with him. On one occasion I heard him say what he would do if he met with a disappointment. He was standing speaking in the shop about some sweethearts, and he said he would think nothing of taking up a large knife which Laird used for cutting twine, and sticking it into himself - suiting the action to the word. He was not speaking of any real case, but generally. He seemed to me somewhat excited. He spoke to me about having been in France, and about travelling there. He did not mention at what time he had been there. He said he was travelling, as I understood, with some person of distinction. He said he had got charge of all their luggage, carriages, and horses - everything in fact. [The Lord Justice-Clerk - As a courier?] - He did not say that. He seemed to have a general superintendence. (by Mr Young) - He said that on one occasion the horses were very much "knocked up," and that he had given them arsenic. He was speaking in English at that time. I was not acquainted with the effects of arsenic, and when he mentioned the circumstance I was interested in it, and asked him about it. He said he gave it to them to make them accomplish the journey. I asked what effect this had, and he said it made them long-winded, and thus made them able to accomplish a feat. I asked if he was not afraid of poisoning them; and he said, "Oh no." So far from doing that, he had taken it himself. I told him I should not like to try it, and he seemed to say he had not felt any bad effects from it, that there had been no danger or expressions to that effect.

He mentioned another effect of arsenic, which was that it improved the complexion. I inferred from his remarks that he took it for that purpose. He did not exactly say so, but I understood that was one of the reasons why he took, it. He also said that he complained of pains in his back, and had a little difficulty in breathing, and he said it had a good effect in that way. I am not sure he ever showed me arsenic. I rather think he did on that occasion - that he opened his desk and showed me a paper containing something white; he either showed it to me or said he had it. At the same time he showed me a very fine specimen of copper ore. It was that which led to the conversation about arsenic. He said he had got it in travelling, and that led to the conversation about the journey and the arsenic.

I have seen him on more than one occasion eat poppy-seeds in large quantities - in handfuls - in the shop. I remarked this the first occasion I saw him. Some person had come into the shop for it, and when they went away he ate some of it. I expressed surprise, and he said that, so far from being dangerous, it was much better than filberts, and that he took it in large quantities. He said he had taken the poppy-seeds in such quantities that he had got quite giddy with them. He said he had done that when he was in Dickson & Co.'s.

(by the Lord Advocate) - I first became acquainted with L'Angelier in the early part of 1852. He talked a good deal of ladies, and what he would do if he were jilted. He did not say he had been jilted. I heard of his having been jilted, but not from him. We had just one conversation about the arsenic. He did not say in what, shape he took it, or in what quantity. He showed me on that occasion a fine piece of copper ore. I had begun a collection of minerals, and he said he had a number of specimens in his lodgings, and that he would bring me a piece of it. It was in that conversation the matter of the arsenic came out. I thought poppy-seeds dangerous, because opium is extracted from them. [To the Lord Justice-Clerk] - I can't say whether he said he had frequently given the horses arsenic, or only on one day. I think he spoke of having accomplished a feat by giving it to them on one occasion. I can't say he spoke like a foreigner. I knew he was a foreigner, but he spoke remarkably good English. I think I only heard him speak French on one occasion. I am quite certain it was arsenic he spoke of. I am sure he did not use the French word for the common bere.

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David Hill, (by Mr. Young) - I am a market gardener in Dundee. I was in Mr. Laird's employment when L'Angelier was there in 1852. Before L'Angelier came, I recollect finding a small parcel on a Sunday in a wood on the north side of Dundee. I thought it was arsenic. I put it in my pocket and brought it to Dundee and inquired about it. A party to whom I showed it supposed it to be arsenic. I don't recollect how long this was before L'Angelier came. I spoke to him about it after he came. I told him of finding it there, and he told me that was nothing strange, and that he used it regularly. I don't recollect of anything more passing. He did not say for what purpose he used it regularly. I have been trying to remember, but I can't.

(by the Lord Advocate) - I have been trying to remember since I have been asked about this affair. I was asked about it on Saturday last. I told it to Mr. Laird, my late master, and Captain Miller, of Glasgow, came to me. He was the superintendent of police at Glasgow, but he is now a messenger at-arms. No one was with me when I spoke to L'Angelier about this. We were passing along the top of Union Street. No one heard what passed between us. He said he used it regularly. I did not inquire, and he did not say in what way.

(by Mr. Young) - I was cited as a witness on Monday, last week. I have been thinking about the matter since I was cited. I was examined again about it on Saturday. I heard of L'Angelier's death when it occurred. That did not recall the circumstances to me. It did not enter my mind soon after. I don't recollect when it came to my mind, but it was before last Saturday.

[The Lord Justice-Clerk - If you did not recollect the conversation when you heard of L'Angelier's death, what brought the conversation to your mind?] - I did not recollect first about this at all.

[The Lord Justice-Clerk - Was it any conversation of others in Dundee that made you recollect this about arsenic?] - No, Sir.

[The Lord Justice-Clerk - What was it then that brought it to your recollection?] - I can't answer that question; it came to my mind, and then I recollected it.

[The Lord Advocate - Did you recollect it before Mr. Miller spoke to you?] - Yes, sir.

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Edward Vokes MacKay, (by Mr. Young) - I am a merchant in Dublin. I was in the habit of visiting Edinburgh in the course of my business. I occasionally visited the Rainbow. I got acquainted with L'Angelier there. I was intimately acquainted with Mr. Baker, who kept the tavern. I first became acquainted with L'Angelier in 1846, and I continued to see him at the Rainbow till a day or so previous to his going to Dundee. I had several meetings and conversations with him. I saw quite enough of him to enable me to form an opinion of his character and disposition. I formed anything but a good opinion of him. I considered him a vain, lying fellow. He was very boastful of his personal appearance, and parties admiring him, ladies particularly. He boasted of his high acquaintances repeatedly, and the high society he had moved in. That was when he returned from the Continent, when he became more or less of a man - he was quite a lad when I first saw him. He mentioned several titled people whom he had known; but not believing anything he was saying at the time I did not store up in my mind any of their titles.

Shortly before he went to Dundee I met him one evening in Princes Street Gardens. I could not say the date, but he went to Dundee the following day. He was sitting in the garden by himself. I came on him accidentally. He had his head in his cambric pocket handkerchief. I put my hand on him and said, "L'Angelier." He held up his head, and I perceived he had been crying. His eyes had the appearance of much weeping. He mentioned that a lady in Fifeshire had slighted him; but I made light of the matter. He made a long complaint about her family, and was much excited.

He said ladies admired him very often. I remember one occasion particularly, when he came in when I was reading the papers in the Rainbow. He told me he had met a lady in Princes Street with another lady, and she had remarked to her companion what pretty little feet he had. I had said he was rather pretty little person, and he had gone out and concocted the story of the lady's remark. I never believed anything he said afterwards. [The Lord Justice-Clerk - Am I to understand you to say that he heard the lady say what pretty feet he had?] - Yes.

(by Mr. Young) - It was a common thing for him to speak of ladies admiring him on the street.

(by the Lord Advocate) - I live in Dublin. I have a counting house in Dublin St at the Lower Quay. To a certain extent I believed the story about the Fife lady. I believed there was a lady there, and that he was after her, for I had seen him weep about it. When I saw him weep I believed there was something.

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Janet B. Christie, (by Mr. Young) - Some years ago I was acquainted with a Mrs. Craig, in St, George's Road, :Glasgow. She had a son in Huggins & Co.'s employment. I visited at her house. I have occasionally met L'Angelier there. I remember on one occasion hearing him say that the French ladies used arsenic to improve their complexions. This was about four years ago. By the Lord Advocate - I can't recollect on what occasion this was. I have not the slightest recollection if it was at a dinner party or an evening party, or who was present.

To the Lord Justice-Clerk - I thought he was rather a forward man, and full of pretension.

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Alexander Miller, (by the Dean of Faculty) - I am in the employment of Huggins and Co., and I was acquainted with the late M. L'Angelier. He was there before me. I remember him telling me several times that he was going to be married. About nine months before his death he told me he intended being married at a certain time, and at other times he told me he was to be married by a certain date. These dates passed, and I gave it little credit. In February, however, he told me he was to be married, and I said that this would pass like the other dates, but he affirmed it would not, and that it would take place in about three months. He told me who the lady was. That was in the beginning of February. He looked very sensitive; he was easily depressed and easily uplifted. I don't recollect him talking to me of suicide. On one occasion he said he wished he was dead. He once said he did not consider there was any sin in a person taking away his own life to get out of the world, being tired of it - "having lost all happiness" was his expression. I objected to that, and said that as our life was not our own, we had no right to do what we chose with it. He did not acknowledge, so far as I recollect, having abandoned his opinion. When he said he wished he was dead I had commenced to say something to him when a party came into the room, and the subject dropped. I intended to remonstrate with him. He seemed to be talking nonsense. I said, "you certainly don't think what you say," and he said he did. I then said, "Then you don't mean it," and he said he did. Then I was going to remonstrate with him, when someone came into the room. He seemed serious.

He complained several times of having diarrhoea, and about the middle of February about having an affection of the stomach and bowels. His eyes were watering very much, but I thought that was from cold. He had complained of attacks of diarrhoea on several occasions before that. Almost since I saw him he complained of that, but more latterly. I went to Huggins' in September, 1853, and I became acquainted with him there. He appeared to receive a great many letters. I knew he had letters from someone, but not till the beginning of February did I know whom they were from. He had several other female corespondents.

(by the Solicitor General) - We had the impression that he was a young man of very regular habits. He was a worthy young man. The occasion in February to which I have alluded, when. his eyes were suffused, was, I think about the 13th. About the 19th or 20th, he complained again. That was in the warehouse. He came in at one o'clock, and had not been there the day before. He came late. There was a sort of "blaeish" appearance round the eyes, and there was a small red spot on his. cheek I asked what was wrong with him, and he said he was nearly dead last night. I then asked what had been the matter with him, and he said he had been rolling on the floor all night, and that he was so weak that he could not call for assistance; he had just to remain quiet. He said he was so sick that he was like to vomit his inside out. I asked if he had vomited, and he said it was yellow stuff, and of a very a. bitter taste. I suggested it might be bile, and he said landlady had suggested the same. At from four to six o'clock in the morning he said he had called for his landlady and asked for a cup of tea. I: believe it was on the 19th or 20th he told me this. He said he was very much pained in his bowels and stomach. He felt very weak when speaking to me. He didn't say if he had been anywhere the night before. He was not regularly in the office after that; he was almost entirely absent after that from illness.

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Agnes M'Millan, (by Mr. Young) - I was at one time in Mr. Smith's service as tablemaid. I was there for year. It is three years last May since I left. Miss Madeleine Smith was at home when I was there. The second daughter, Elizabeth, left home to go to school near London while I was in the house. I understood Miss Smith had returned home from the same school some time before. On one occasion she spoke to me about arsenic. I can't remember what brought on the conversation, but I perfectly remember her saying that she believed arsenic was used for the complexion, or that it was good for the complexion - I don't recollect which. I can't tell anything more about it.

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James Girdwood, (by Mr. Young) - I am a surgeon. in Falkirk, and have been about forty years in practice. I have frequently, since the publication of an. article in Chambers' Journal, been asked by females as to the use of arsenic as a cosmetic. That is about two years ago.

(by the Lord Advocate) - Many of my friends consulted me, and I told them it would be highly injurious and ought not to be taken.

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John Robertson, (by Mr. Young) - I am a druggist in Queen Street, Glasgow. I remember, some time ago, of an application being made in my shop for arsenic by a manservant. That was in the beginning of last May. a young man came in, from seventeen to nineteen years of age, and asked for sixpence worth or one shilling's worth of arsenic. I asked him for what purpose it was to be used. He said it was for a lady, who was waiting outside. I asked for what purpose, and he stated that she was going to use it for her complexion. I did not see a lady waiting outside. I did not give it.

[The Lord Justice-Clerk - This is very loose. It is after universal rumours were circulated about the case.]

[The Lord Advocate (to witness) - You did not ask the lady's name?] - No.

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Peter Guthrie, (by the Dean of Faculty) - I am the manager of Frazer & Green's establishment in Sauchiehall Street. We sell arsenic, among other things. I remember a lady coming to our shop and asking about a particular use of arsenic. That was in the beginning of 1856. She came into the shop alone, and produced a number of Blackwoods' Magazine containing an article on the use of arsenic for improving the complexion, and asked me if I had seen it. I said I had, and she asked me to give her arsenic. I declined to do so. She still expressed a strong desire to have it, but I did not give it to her.

(by the Lord Advocate) - I did not know the lady. I had seen her several times before. There was no one with her. I mentioned it` to several persons in the shop, and to Johnson, our senior assistant. I could not say if I did so the day it happened.

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William D'Esterre Roberts, (by Mr. Young) - I am a merchant in Glasgow I became acquainted with L'Angelier about the year 1853, and he once dined with me - on Christmas Day of that year, a Sunday. After dinner he became very ill. There were a few friends at dinner. When the ladies retired he got ill, and wished to leave the room. I went with him, and came back to the dining-room, and remained some time. I wondered why he did not come. I opened the dining-room door, and heard a groan as of some person vomiting. I found him very ill - vomiting and purging. A good many gentlemen came out of the room and saw him. I sent for cholera mixture, and gave him a good deal of it. He nearly emptied the bottle. I got very much frightened, as cholera had been in the town shortly before. After a time, one of the gentlemen took him in a cab to his lodgings. He called on me the next, day or day aftar that, to apologise for his illness. He was nearly two hours, ill in my house.

(by the Lord Advocate) - I knew L'Angelier pretty well. I always thought him a very nice little fellow. He sat in the same pew with me in church three years; at that time I would not have hesitated to believe his word.

(To the Lord Justice-Clerk) - I had occasion to change my opinion of him, not from anything I observed, but from what I have been told since this trial was talked of.

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Charles Baird, (by Mr. Young) - I am a son of the late Mr. Robert Baird, writer, Glasgow. I have an uncle in Huggins' warehouse. Through him I became acquainted with L'Angelier, I should say about two years ago. After that I frequently met with him, and sometimes went to his lodgings. I remember on one occasion finding him very unwell in his lodgings. He was then living in Franklin Place, at Mrs. Jenkins's. I think the occasion I refer to was either in the last fortnight of September or the first fortnight of October last. I went to Spain immediately after that, and it was just before I left. When I went up in the evening he said he had returned straight from the Office. He ordered some tea. He took very ill suddenly, and put his hand on his stomach, and, as it were, doubled himself up; he lay down on the sofa, screaming with pain. This continued for about fifteen minutes. I advised him to send for a medical man, and left him, and I believe he did so. He was going to bed when I left. It was about ten o'clock when I went, and about eleven when I left. I saw him the following morning between nine and ten. I asked him how he was, and he said he had a very bad night of it, that he had sent for a medical man - I believe a Dr. Steven, Great Western Road, who had been employed by him before. He said he had vomited a great deal during the night. He has been in my mother's house, but never at a party. He never met Miss Smith there to my knowledge. My family knew the panel.

(by the Lord Advocate) - Mrs Jenkins was with L'Angelier when he was so ill. He said Dr. Steven had seen him that evening after I left. I could not say Mrs. Jenkins was present when he told me so.

(by the Dean of Faculty) - I remember this because it was before I went to Spain. I went there on 6th November.

(by Lord Handyside) - I returned on 5th April. [Consults note-book.] I find I arrived in the Clyde on 6th. April.

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Robert Baird (by the Dean of Faculty) - I am brother of the last witness. I was acquainted with L'Angelier. I can't say when I got to know him; it is not less than two years. I recollect him asking me to introduce him to Miss Smith. I cannot say how long ago this is. I think it is about two years ago. He several times asked me to introduce him, and he seemed very pressing about it. I believe I asked a gentleman to introduce them, thinking it would be better to come from him then from me, but he declined. It was my uncle I asked. I think I then asked my mother to ask Miss Smith some evening, that I might ask L'Angelier, and introduce him. She declined to do so. They certainly never met in my mother's house. I introduced them in the street. L'Angelier did not ask me to introduce him to Miss Smith's father, but he expressed an anxiety or determination to be introduced to him. When I introduced him to Miss Smith her sister was with her. I am now nineteen years old.

(by the Solicitor-General) - L'Angelier once asked me to go with him to Row, and I understood his purpose was to go and see Miss Smith. He might have said he wished to call at Rowaleyn, but I don't recollect. He frequently expressed a desire to be introduced to her father. I have been in her father's house.

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Elizabeth Wallace, (by Mr. Young) - I keep lodgers in Glasgow, and have done so for a number of years. M. L'Angelier lodged with me for some time when he first came to Glasgow. He came in the end of July or beginning of August, 1852, and remained till the middle of December, 1853. He told me he had come to be in some mercantile office. He said he had been a lieutenant in the navy at one time. I don't know whether he meant the British or French navy. I understood it to be the British navy, but I may have been wrong. He did not say he had sold his commission. He spoke of having lived in Edinburgh before he came to me. He did not say anything of being in a situation in Edinburgh. He said he had been long out of a situation. He said nothing about having been in Dundee. He told me he had been frequently in Fife, and mentioned that he knew some families there.

[Mr. Young - The Balcaras family?] - I asked if he knew that family, and he said he did, or that he had heard of them.

(by the Lord Advocate) - He was a well-conducted young man. He kept good hours, and no company. One day that he came in he said he had met an old sweetheart going on her marriage jaunt. He had a great aversion to medicine, and I never knew him take it. He was very cheerful. He played the guitar in the evenings, and sang occasionally.

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Lieutenant-Colonel Robert Fraser, (by Mr. Young) - I reside at Portobello. I was not acquainted with the late M. L'Angelier. I never saw him in my life, to my knowledge. He never was in my house, and never dined with me. At the time of his death I received note from Mr. George M'Call mentioning the fact of his death. He mentioned him as a mutual friend but I was very much surprised at it, never having seen M. L'Angelier or Mr. M'Call. There is no other Colonel Fraser in Portobello.

(by the Lord Advocate) - There is a Captain Fraser, R.N.

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Dr. James Dickson, (by Mr. Young) - I keep a druggist's shop in Baillieston. That is on the road between Coatbridge and Glasgow - five miles from Glasgow and two and a half from Coatbridge. I remember, on a Sunday evening in March last, a gentleman coming into my shop; it was some time in the end of March, about half-past six. He appeared to be unwell; he was holding his hand over his stomach, and complaining of pain; he wanted laudanum. I gave him some at the counter-from twenty to twenty-five drops. He said he came from Coatbridge, and was going to Glasgow. He was about five feet seven in height, so far as I recollect, and what drew my attention to him particularly was his wearing a moustache thing we seldom see about our locality. His age would be about twenty-five; he was not of a very dark complexion; he was dressed in a coat buttoning up tight - I recollect that very distinctly. He had a Glengarry or Balmoral bonnet on his head. I was originally precognosced by Mr. Miller for the defence, and I gave him a description of this man. I was brought here as a witness, not having seen a portrait till I came to the Court here. When I came here I was shown a photograph. This now shown me is extremely like the person who called at my shop. I think he had a white pocket handkerchief in the outside breast-pocket of his coat.

(Cross-examined by the Solicitor-General) - I fix on the end of March, because one or two Sundays about that time I was at home because of the absence of my assistant; on others I was out visiting. It might have been in April. I don't think it could have been in the beginning of March. I cannot say distinctly as to the time; as to the Sunday I can't say distinctly. I was asked by the Procurator-Fiscal about the time, and I said it was from two and a half to three months ago. I think his coat was of a darkish colour, but I could not say. There was no person with him in my shop. I did not see him in the street, or if any one was with him. It struck me he spoke in a slightly foreign accent.

(To the Lord Justice-Clerk) - If a person wanted medicine on the road he would require to come to my shop, there is no other medical man there; he might have left a companion on the high road - my shop is 200 or 300 yards off it - and returned to him.

John Fleming, ( by Mr. Young) - "I am storekeeper to Todd & Higginbotham, printers and dyers in Glasgow. I have been so eleven years.        I take charge of the whole chemical substances used in their printing and dyeing operations.  Arsenic is one of the substances used in large quantities.  We generally get from three to four hundredweight at a time from Charles Tennant & Co. in its pure, white state.  It is used by us for mixing with other substances in making colour.  It is put in barrels.  The arsenic barrels are put into the store among the other things, quite open.  When any of it is taken out of the barrel the lid is loosely laid on again.  Three men and a boy work in the store with me; their duty in to weigh out the different substances as they are wanted by the colourmakers.  From 80 to 90 lbs. are generally given to the colourmakers at a time.  They get that quantity several times a month.  No person gets into the store except those engaged in it.  It is taken from the store to the colour-makers in open wooden pails.  I can't say how many workmen are employed about the works. I would not miss three or four ounces of arsenic if it were taken away.  I would miss more." 

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Robert Townsend, ( by Mr. Young) - "I am manager to my brother, Mr. Townsend, manufacturing chemist in Glasgow.  He deals largely in arsenic, and we have always large quantities at a time on hand.  We have from one to ten tons at a time; it is kept in a private office in the countinghouse.  During the night it is locked up - not during the day.  It stands in casks, as meal in a meal shop.  One cask only is kept open for use.  We employ from 100 to 140 people. I have no doubt they might take arsenic away if so inclined.  I have never known it taken away." 

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